We just need to vote harder! If we get out there and support Democrats like Manchin and Sinema, one day things will get better, at least for the fossil fuel industry. Right?
The real situation is so very much worse that most people cannot bear to consider the truth.
I agree with your assessment. Bills like this are a huge setback, because politicians can say, look, we passed a climate bill, what more do you want? Same as the ACA, which set back the fight for universal, free health care by already 13 years, and probably will for decades. Only socialism has any chance of turning the ship around. Capitalists have no choice but to chase profits at the expense of the entire living world. Capitalism=death.
I’ve been an environmental activist for over 50 years (& BTW, it’s too late)! Thinking we shouldn’t pass this while we can (knowing Progressives will continue the fight), is like thinking trump’s violent, racist Amerika is ready to vote for the Green Party!
So, have at it—stick to your “guns no matter what” & die anyway ‼️
I'm not sure what you meant by "BTW it's too late" so will leave that alone for the moment.
I too, have been an environmental activist, advocate, organizer, org. leader, etc., though for only about 4 decades. (I assume from your remark that you're into your 80s at least... while I'm going on 71.)
I can't speak for the author but I'm not sure he is stating here that the bill shouldn't have been passed; but rather that it's weak to worse in terms of addressing the climate crisis; and that the e-groups shouldn't sing its praises but instead make clear that the bill, being so heavily compromised towards fossil fuel interests, is insufficient, potentially dangerous, and not likely to do what the proponents claimed in terms of GHG reductions.
I think the latter point is supported by some of the analysis that Birrion cited in a prevous post.
I for one won't be cheering it in any case. And as I've frequently written, in my opinion, we are now at a point where it is simply too late to rely on incrementalist legislative acts. The immediacy and scale of the threats is so great and rapidly accelerating, and the electoral and policy political system so corrupted by private capital that in my view, nothing matching the needs will be forthcoming therefrom. Instead, a massive, coordinated, strategically planned, disciplined and sustainable grassroots movement, using its only real collective remaining powers to 'perturb' the economy and the financial interests of the power elite at its institutions is necessary.
As a former organizer and one who's worked both within and outside of both the electoral and policy frameworks, I'm not suggesting to give up entirely on the political system. And I hold no delusions about the difficulty of creating a disciplined mass movement. Yet in my view, it's probably our only real avenue for changing the course of the Titanic in time.
He’s like Chris Hedges—knows all the problems, but what about real, possible solutions? I read his 1st post & replied—we know all this & we do! The only people really touting it are the mainstream media—and it’s about time! Give us credit for SOMETHING!
We just need to vote harder! If we get out there and support Democrats like Manchin and Sinema, one day things will get better, at least for the fossil fuel industry. Right?
The real situation is so very much worse that most people cannot bear to consider the truth.
The Democratic Party is where progressive ideas go to die. The streets are where they will come alive and grow.
I agree with your assessment. Bills like this are a huge setback, because politicians can say, look, we passed a climate bill, what more do you want? Same as the ACA, which set back the fight for universal, free health care by already 13 years, and probably will for decades. Only socialism has any chance of turning the ship around. Capitalists have no choice but to chase profits at the expense of the entire living world. Capitalism=death.
I’ve been an environmental activist for over 50 years (& BTW, it’s too late)! Thinking we shouldn’t pass this while we can (knowing Progressives will continue the fight), is like thinking trump’s violent, racist Amerika is ready to vote for the Green Party!
So, have at it—stick to your “guns no matter what” & die anyway ‼️
I'm not sure what you meant by "BTW it's too late" so will leave that alone for the moment.
I too, have been an environmental activist, advocate, organizer, org. leader, etc., though for only about 4 decades. (I assume from your remark that you're into your 80s at least... while I'm going on 71.)
I can't speak for the author but I'm not sure he is stating here that the bill shouldn't have been passed; but rather that it's weak to worse in terms of addressing the climate crisis; and that the e-groups shouldn't sing its praises but instead make clear that the bill, being so heavily compromised towards fossil fuel interests, is insufficient, potentially dangerous, and not likely to do what the proponents claimed in terms of GHG reductions.
I think the latter point is supported by some of the analysis that Birrion cited in a prevous post.
I for one won't be cheering it in any case. And as I've frequently written, in my opinion, we are now at a point where it is simply too late to rely on incrementalist legislative acts. The immediacy and scale of the threats is so great and rapidly accelerating, and the electoral and policy political system so corrupted by private capital that in my view, nothing matching the needs will be forthcoming therefrom. Instead, a massive, coordinated, strategically planned, disciplined and sustainable grassroots movement, using its only real collective remaining powers to 'perturb' the economy and the financial interests of the power elite at its institutions is necessary.
As a former organizer and one who's worked both within and outside of both the electoral and policy frameworks, I'm not suggesting to give up entirely on the political system. And I hold no delusions about the difficulty of creating a disciplined mass movement. Yet in my view, it's probably our only real avenue for changing the course of the Titanic in time.
He’s like Chris Hedges—knows all the problems, but what about real, possible solutions? I read his 1st post & replied—we know all this & we do! The only people really touting it are the mainstream media—and it’s about time! Give us credit for SOMETHING!
I’m not here to discuss, just gave my opinion!
I’m dropping out after 2024….good luck 🍀
He’s right - only a mass movement of the working class can save us. What other solution is there?
There’s not—-not sure if there’s enough time & organization. I am hopeful younger generations see how crucial it all
Is ☮️